I'll put the scan on my site some time soon. The M23 extension was formally abandoned in the early s. It had, however, been scratched from plans much earlier than that. I have seen an old A to Z of London which showed the proposed route of the M23 northern extension from Hooley, where it now terminates, to Streatham.
The proposed M23 ceased being showed on maps from the early to mids. The route would have taken a line from Hooley, curved in a loop to cross the Chipstead Valley, near or through the village of Chipstead, on a foot 4-lane viaduct local information. It would then have made its way immediately west of Woodmansterne and descended into a deep cutting that would have destroyed hundreds of houses in the area between Wallington and Beddington up until recently the Ministry of Transport - and its descendants - owned many of the houses and let them out.
It is thought locally that the route would have finished at the A South Circular nearby although the A to Z failed to show the route beyond the centre of Streatham. Although sections of the current day A23 were built over the old in places, many sections of the original road remain.
Some sections were converted to minor roads, some became slip roads for the current A23 and some simply became huge cul-de-sacs. Other sections were physically dug up and allowed to revert back to nature, becoming giant green lanes. Many clues remain for those too young to remember the old road as it was and for those that are old enough, seeing them again may bring back memories of travelling in what was a different age.
If foe our love shall conquer thee. When the A23 was widened one of the pylons was due to be demolished, but due to the public outcry what a great word the road was built to avoid it. The original road just ran between the two pylons and there was a big earth bank between the road and the railway.
This spoil was the waste dug out of the railway tunnel in Victorian times. I think the soil was used to help build the new road. The Pylons were indeed intended to be a welcome to Brighton to the traveller approaching the city from the north along the A They were originally either side of the single track road. Needless to say, the Council would not consider such a cost at that time, and certainly the Department quite properly would not entertain the idea of providing a third pylon as part of any compensation receivable by the Council.
Thus Brighton and Hove should still possess this small area of land, set aside for future use should anyone like to raise the money for such a project, subject no doubt to planning consent, etc. Herbert Carden was a great benefactor to the Council, and 80 years on might be a suitable date by which to commemorate not only him, but also the fact Brighton and Hove is now a City.
Perhaps the Argus might like to run a campaign and get together another time capsule. Anyone like to take up the challenge? He was a Ornamental Plasterer. I am the Great grand son of Sir Herbert Carden, and I agree that what a splendid and fitting tribute it would be to build the third pylon. In memory of Sir Herbert who would have been so proud to see his town become a city.
His family have lived in the the town since at least 14 generations to date. Mmmm… the same Sir Herbert who wanted to clear most of Kings Road and to demolish the Pavilion for re-development?
Merely provoking discussion. Neither my husband or I are Brightonians but have adopted the town sorry — city! In researching the date of the pylons I note that they were designed by John Denman. However, I believe it was a collaboration with Louis Ginnett [the Ditchling artist]. Information is available on this artist at Ditchling Museum. We also felt that we were home when we came through them.
The pillars that can be seen approaching Brighton used to sit on either side of the road. The junction with the A27 was built at the time of the construction of the A27 Brighton Bypass. The A23 runs largely on its original alignment south of the A A small bypass of Patcham opened around , and some of the original route is now one-way, with traffic in the opposite direction running on a nearby parallel road.
The very southern end of the A23 around Valley Gardens got major changes in and as before of two carriageways either side of the gardens carrying the A23, which some contraflow traffic. This changed as all non-bus, taxi and cycle traffic was moved to the western side of the gardens and all other traffic is only allowed on the western side on a vary width of S2 to S4.
The Future north of the M25 looks quite mild, with a few adjustments to lanes. However South of the M23 the A23 may alter a lot due to its near motorway usage and layout.
It is one of the routes that may become an Expressway if Highways England takes that route. The A23 for this section of the route is a D3, becoming a D2 south of the A and runs on a fairly new alignment all built since and the newest section realigned in between handcross and warninglid, the M23 on this section is a D3M, becoming a D4SM at junction 10, just north of junction 10a.
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